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Well, I began, if I want to start there, as an electrician.

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As an electrician, then I did not want to be.

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When I came out of this service, as I wanted to go into the CIA and the FBI, and my father

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told me in his wisdom that I should not walk away from the opportunity to become an electrician.

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So he introduced me to local number three in the IBW, Harry Van Aasnell, and the entire

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board of local three.

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And I went up on a personal interview, which my father was astonished that I was speaking

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freely with these heads of state, as he called.

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He was quite nervous when I was there.

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And I was very comfortable speaking to people like this, because they just come out of college

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and I felt that I will have to say what I have to say.

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He was very much in awe of my review.

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We finished his support.

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You did a good job.

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You didn't stop talking.

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Well, they were asking me good questions, and I told them very simply, I would like to

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get involved.

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As a matter of fact, Mr. Al Mackie, who was the director of the assistant president of

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the union, said to me, I would like you to be very much involved in union activities.

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So you want to move you into the organizing group of local three, and maybe you could

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go out there and organize an electrical contract.

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So I said, this is something I do not want to do to myself.

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I want to get into the business.

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So I became an apprentice and through the apprentice program, I tried to be very, very

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aware of my ability to practice the best, best matter and the best efficiencies in doing

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electrical installations.

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I learned quickly how very good mechanics have taught me, and as a result, I was very pleased.

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I moved very quickly through the whole organization at a point where now I was leading the mechanics.

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Then the opportunity came where an M. Isenberg and brothers that I became known as the lead

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mechanic of the company moved quickly into Foreman, and when I was just graduating from

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school in local number three, and I was given my card as an age journeyman, they gave me

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the podcast to do a 96th Street Park Avenue, and the Foreman who had the job, performing,

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had some serious illness, and I took off his operation, and I was successful in doing

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what I had to do.

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From there, I moved right through the system, and Albert Isenberg always was a tyrant as

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a leader.

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He was very difficult to work for, but he found me to be the cutting edge of what he wanted

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as a foreman.

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I did Lupe Chevrolet, we installed all the work for Lupe Chevrolet, and not a job he

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said to me, I like to make you super-intended of Law Island.

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I was challenged several times because I was the youngest kid on the block, I was about

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30, maybe 30 years old, and I had been working there who were 45, 50, 60, and none of them

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accepted me easily.

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I had approved myself all the way, but that's the story of business.

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You must prove yourself before you're accepted.

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So I made very sure that everything I told them what to do, and how to do it, I was

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correct in what I did.

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When I moved through that, then became the super-intended for all of New York and Log Island.

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Then, as we grew in the company, I realized that Mr. Isenberg was going on a very aggressive

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path to sell his company, and I wasn't pleased about the rapid, I guess, buys he was making

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on various buildings, 22, Portland, 747, 3rd Avenue, and a bunch of others, and I said

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the prices are too low.

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Eventually, he's going to implode.

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So I decided to leave.

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I left that, and then I wanted to have a call, a watch trial electric with Irving Weinstein,

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and that lasted five years.

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We were absorbed by the Damien Corporation, and the Damien Corporation looked upon us as

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the installers of firelocks, because that was what they would do.

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They merged with firecraft, fire company, and us as the installers, it was a perfect fit.

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This is when the city of New York went bankrupt.

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So everything kind of slowed down around 1975, and I decided, best I get myself into

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a new position.

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So I left, and found a company called Unity Electric, so I came up with enough money

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by borrowing everything I could from my uncles and father-in-law, and I had a down payment,

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much of my surprise.

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When we started this business with six men, they were doing maintenance for banks, and

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at that time, Chaseman had banked just started a program of ATMs, and the ATMs were coming

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out so rapidly that their design was not correct.

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And the power that I have in terms of this business, I just enjoyed very much going over

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the drawings and redesigning it, so it's better than what it was on paper.

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I did that over and over and over again.

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We had probably a success rate of about 75% to 80% of all the ATMs that come out of New

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York.

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And we made a very decent margin on that.

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And going back, they had a security system that was not designed properly, and this is

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how the level of contracting can get involved with the client when he's close to what's

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happening.

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It sent to me, you know, there's a problem with this security system.

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A woman comes and she swipes her card and the door opens for the ATM.

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She goes in the ATM and takes all her, makes a business transaction.

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She then goes over to the door, swipes the card again, puts her bag on the floor,

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because back up the bed, the door is locked.

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Most of the timing is so critical.

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You have to give us a time delay.

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So I went to a friend of mine in the alarm business, and they said, Shelley, you have to

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help me out.

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We have to decide something here, and I need space to do it.

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So I put his arm on the desk, and he cleared all the junk off the desk, and he says, Peter,

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this is all yours.

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So I sat there for about three hours and I designed my own system.

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That system became the standard for all of the ATMs that was in Brooklyn and Queens at

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the time.

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And it was an incredible win for me, because we helped out security, we got this thing

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running, and the ATM program went on and on and on without any issues.

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It got to a point where anybody changing in the ATM would call us first and say, what

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is this all about, tell me you approved this.

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On the ATMs, we wanted to chase plaza, which is a huge chase building, and we began

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doing some data work in there.

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And we had some resistance from the contract that I was in the building, but we still

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haven't became that, because the quality of our work was so extremely up from the contract

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that was doing the work, the quality and design and labeling and so on.

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John Ciccatella, who was a senior vice president at that time, walked into the training floor,

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and he saw the work we did over the weekend, he says, who in the world did this?

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It can't be the company that said this building.

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He's a new guy, he's going to give him all the work.

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Just a simple thing of doing a job correctly, doing it with a certain amount of pride and

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dignity, we got all the work, and eventually the other contract had to leave, and we've

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been in the chase, I guess, now for 20, 23, 24 years, doing all the work that expanded

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from that.

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Chase had the training floor, there was a 17th floor, there was a training floor there,

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and they had a huge machine, it looked like a billboard that you would see in a baseball

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park, and it was all motorized.

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Monas were driving, the numbers, the models were driving, the sales, the models were driving

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the whole thing, so that when the market was up, the machine lifted in pitch and intensity

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and had a certain beat to it.

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When that happened, all the traders would focus on this and say, we got a good day coming.

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They would stay there and stay there so finally, they were very happy about what was going

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on.

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The one complaint that the engineers and design people said, it makes too much noise, that's

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to change it to an electronic board.

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We did, the traders wrote a letter of protest, they do not know it's going on on the trays

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because they did not hear the music, the beat, so you have to work with them, so we had

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to put background music in to simulate the machines, let them know that they're very busy,

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but this is about client relationships.

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We had another case where the floor where they had a trade going in and across the street

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was at Federal Reserve.

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And Wolfgang Schokoff was a man of charge at that at the time, smoked big cigar, and when

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the runner was on, he would wait till the last couple of minutes to get the bid in across

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the street by 3 o'clock, so as the runner was picking up all the receipts in the training

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floor, which is quite huge, not too long for them long, sometimes he would get caught

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up at people and not be able to get to the elevator at the time and miss the trade.

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So he said, I want you to put runner on lights on the training floor, throughout the whole

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aisle that the runner runs on a stall, any of those syncronic stuff.

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But it's kind of things that people say, well why would you bother with something like

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that?

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Isn't that an engineer's job?

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No, no.

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If you're tired out with the client and that's what I'm trying to tell everyone, the client

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there's no limit to what we can do to service them.

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So the detail of what all this happens keeps us in the limelight with JP Morgan Chase

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and they don't forget they had 3 emerges and we're still there doing most of their work

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and the quality of what we do.

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And all the way through this, my theory was, my philosophy was, I should say, that we

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should not just apply ourselves to electrical work per se.

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The data communication is very big.

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So the other part of that is the other divisions that we have, such as uni data, which is

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a service company, when we were moving from New York City to Metro Tech.

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I was sitting at a table and everyone was deciding about this move of how difficult it's

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going to be to move 1,500 people into this building from remote sites.

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So I raised my hand and they said, I would have no difficulty in doing that.

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Well, you're all electricians.

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I said, no, we have a company called uni data.

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And uni data will be able to take everything off the desk, the pictures, the various works

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of art.

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So I put them in a box, label the desk, the move is then take the desk and move it in its

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entirety to the new location at Metro Tech.

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We come in, open up the box, put everything just as it was because they took a photograph

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of it before.

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And we move almost 1,500 people into this building with flawless.

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These are stock traders.

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These are stock traders, back in the house business, everything you can imagine.

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And of the 600 people, I guess maybe 800 were doing that.

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Then we put in a security system.

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We put in a closed circuit TV, the grand opening, the roofing cutting, but this floor was

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open.

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I brought a box of store burgers and the model of champagne to the director because everybody

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was in a very party mood.

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So I brought it into his office and I said, I'd like to show you what we put in.

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And he cut the ribbon and looked at the TV and said, oh my God, you mean all these people

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work for me?

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He was astonished.

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Oh my God.

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Okay.

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So it was something that you give you great pride to understand because there's a little

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bit of humor and everything.

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But this business is a very difficult business because it's heavily competitive and sometimes

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the market goes up and down and people need work so they think it at a different level

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and you have to know how to push back and say I can't do that because there's no way

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I'm going to be able to make money on that job.

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So that's where judgement calls come in and that's where it makes the difference between

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a successful business and a successful business.

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Remember cash flow is the heartbeat of the business and if you're taking three or four jobs

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that are very tight, then a fourth job is disaster.

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You have a problem on your hand because it can really hurt you in many ways.

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But again, I personally interviewed everybody I felt was going to join this company and

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be a part of what we're doing.

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Everyone who was a senior vice president, putting yourself, I had personal contact with

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all my, all my foreman that worked for me, a handpicked and I know I assist in many

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ways if there's a child that needs some help, if there's someone that needs some surgery,

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if there's someone that needs medical assistance, we do what we can in the company to provide

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them with any support we can.

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That gives us a distinct advantage because people respond well when they care and when

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you care and that's the difference between us and a lot of other contractors.

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And I am pleased to tell you that we opened an office in London, in London everything

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changes.

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It's a metric system and you're dealing with the philosophy of how people in London work.

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So what I did, I went to London and I looked at the space, this was a magnificent, beautiful

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building.

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I went there and I sat there with General Contractor and they had a bullpen where everyone

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existed.

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Engineers, architects, there was no delay in anything being approved.

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I said this is going to be a very streamlined job.

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I walked over to the table with about 25 people sitting around it and the man who was the

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director of the meeting said to me, I don't have you on my agenda, I said well, I was sent

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here by Jessica Teller to look at drawings and I don't have any information, we already

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have prices.

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I said, I'm astonished that you have prices based on the drawing.

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Are they the same as ours?

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You showed me.

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But you're missing streets and avenues of classes, there's so much left out of these drawings.

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So they began talking to each other at the table and soon everyone was busy in a huff

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talking to each other trying to find out what am I driving at.

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They left the table.

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This gentleman who was the director said, I've been doing this for 20 years.

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I've never had my meeting broken up, it's just kind of trash.

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Sorry, but JB and B was the engineer and I said that look, it's important that us having

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this drawing.

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They realized that I was right.

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Next morning, when their office had the drawings, two days later we went into the engineer's

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office for data communications, we had their drawings, took them back to New York and two

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weeks later we were on water at the job on a bit.

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Okay, because they did things differently than we do, but we found out how they do it.

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In any case, now I figured out, well, I went back in three weeks later and I went back

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to London.

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I was trying to figure out how in the world am I going to do this now?

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At the time, the local three was on furloughs.

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So I know I had a cadre of furloughs and I can move over there.

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So I went there and I picked my form and general form and all the way through and I read

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to the house in Blackheath which is one train stop away from the job and I thought this

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sort of thing.

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I said, if the boys go out and have a good time the night before, all they have to do

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is follow a train and go one stop, drag themselves off and go to work.

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So we managed to understand their philosophy.

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So in a matter of fact, I was asked to save a lot of money in the job and it was over-designed.

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So I said, if you were designed as all these cable trains in the floor, you really don't

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need them.

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We just put the cable on the floor like we do in the yard and we saved them almost $300,000

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which was something they appreciated very much.

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So the engineers who were on the job were very upset with what I did.

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They said, you know, this is wrong, they want to save money, that's what we did.

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Let's all go after dinner tonight.

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That's one thing an English person will never do is walk away from the good dinner.

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So we took all after dinner and then we went to this satay restaurant and they had no

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idea for it.

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So I was on my own element and I ordered everything they should have and they were in heaven.

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Everything they ate was very, very pleasing to them.

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At the end they said, we'd like to have pork, that's not tonight, you've got to be drinking

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grappa.

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So they started banging down, drinking grappa and as the night wore on, I noticed they

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were slurring their words and all things for that nature.

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The next day they all came in wearing black armpits.

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It's just not what it's done.

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So I knew a bond that was created and that's what you have to do to break the dam of resentment

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and differences of opinion, find a way to get through and that's what they did and everybody

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is very happy about it.

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They still talk about it in this day.

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Job was probably one of the best jobs we've ever had because we made sure that the English

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people treated with dignity and we were treated with dignity because we were the largest job

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in London and we're doing it with Americans.

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We can understand how resentment had been at a very high level.

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So we come back to that and then London kept going and we're concentrating now on New

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Jersey with a lot of work going on there.

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We now have a help desk that runs out of uni data that takes care of all of the JPMorgan

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Chase work and we are now in UPS facility in Georgia and we're here in New Jersey.

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And all of this we were told that they want us to bid the Yankee Stadium of course.

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We've been terminal number four Kennedy Airport and Harry Olsen was the director of terminal

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number four.

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A lot of problems with that job but we got into it and resolved every one of his problems.

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So when the Yankee Stadium came up we'd bid the job of the Turner, got to work and we're

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very happy about it and then something happened with the contract that it was doing in the

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maintenance for the Yankees and they said to us, would you like to do the main thing

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and it's of the Yankees in the old field and then when the new field is finished you

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may be a candidate for the new field.

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We did such a good job in the old field that they automatically transfer us to the new

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field.

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And now we do all the work for the new Yankees and it's an honor for me to say that because

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I really consider it a very fine excellent client really nice people and the Yankees they're

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a good client and we have what kind of standard set up for them and then doing this you

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know you receive recognition from the community which is nice saying charge university, saying

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Francis University, boys and girls, towns of Italy, the Bishop Humanitarian Award, all

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these things come to you when you begin to help give it back.

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That's the way I always felt, I always felt as you begin to grow you have to find some

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way to give back to other people who are less fortunate and it was a president of Strathmore

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Vanderbilt Country Club and then the Tiro Senno, New York City, the old Thai and American

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club in the country and I'm on the board as an geriatric foundation but all these are

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extremely time consuming but it's a good thing because you have a chance to meet a lot

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of other people who are doing other very nice things and it's like elevating yourself

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into an area of five people who their position in life is to aid other privileged, aid people

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who are under the stress and so on.

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So that's the piece that I like and of course the best part of my story is I'm married

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now to Caroline Striano and we have three daughters, Rosa, Alisa and Christine and we have

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six grandchildren so I'm a proud grandfather and my wife is constantly involved with these

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children and I'm very happy about how the whole family is working together as a unit.

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I met a lot of nice people through the business and it was a lot of entertaining, quite enjoyable.

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We saw a lot of New York and I finally convinced them to buy a place in New York because we

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were always in Manhattan.

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You didn't tell me when I went into the Army and came back out, I thought I saw you walking

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by a bar that I was hanging out in and that's how he called me.

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I met him in college.

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A level eight, four, three, four, three was a number, a couple years ago, 1190 grand

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time.

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Anyway, we met in college and then he went into the Army and I didn't hear from him but

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then he thought he saw me, it was not me and we got together and here we are, 55 years

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later.

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That's great.

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Three beautiful daughters, six grandchildren, four boys and two girls.

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Very busy life, still busy, but he's still busy, he'll never retire, right?

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No, that's what gets him up in the morning.

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What would you say that, what was the driving force that made this business a success between

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the two of us?

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How did that work?

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I think you loved people and your work hard, wasn't 95, that's for sure.

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And you'll get things done.

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The primary reason, of course, as far as I'm concerned, that she, Caroline, was a catalyst

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in entertaining the wives of the people that we took out for birth.

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It isn't fun razors and so on, they fell in love with her and much of the time they

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would call them, you're coming to this event, right?

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Yes, I'm coming.

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Make sure you bring Caroline.

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Yes, of course I bring Caroline.

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So I was, you know, treated like an afterthought but I got used to it.

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Anyway, it's been fun.
